On the surface Leave No Trace and Crafting seem like polar extremes, the one wanting to educate about minimizing outdoor recreation impacts, the other wanting to educate about using resources and harvesting. This article was inspired by conversations between advocates for Leave No Trace and Crafting over several years. We explored the two positions and then looked at how the goals of each position align. Our discussions uncovered some really interesting commonalities behind the different approaches and motivated us to write and communicate some of these ideas. We blended our writing together so there is generally no one voice in any section, however Mark Jones writes from his experiences in Crafting, Chris North writes from his experiences in Leave No Trace and Dan Moore brings some key questions that we should consider.